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" We have gone the larger tubless tyre (2.8) way with 650 rims for gravel rides. " Very interesting. So interesting, one has to wonder whether Specialized would make it an optional choice, e.g. the Vado 650.

That's the 2019 version with the Bosch gen3 motor and longer chain stays.

As there is a Creo in my future, I have an interest in your thoughts to which I would add, that my interest is in using the "e" feature for assist hill climbing. Judging from reviewer comments this is an important consideration and I would think Specialized focused on meeting it. Good luck...

Might consider these ebikes have a "walk asist" button for motor help walking up a step hill, which might just be the ticket for going up stairs (if wide enough). Could be helpful.

And what a bore.

You may not be extending the kickstand all the way forward. You may have already discovered that the stand needs to be push forward to support the bike best. Enjoy your bike and the forum.

My guess is the "600 wh" is from the USA literature and is for the 5.0 model which also has the stronger 1.3 motor. IMO, the op got it right, Spec. should correct.

Thanks for explanation. A clarification the "how of it" was my focus, should have been clearer.

That's not question presented by the op in this thread.

Really? How would one know? And if one knew, to search through how many posts?

Have to wonder whether the op ever got his bike fixed.

GuruUno is not just climbing on Trek, he left a pile on Specialized. Glad you got him . . . for the duration. GuruUno: "Took it [Vado SL 5.0 EQ] for a spin today, not impressed, cheap feeling, overpriced, $2500 ballpark where it should be next year at $1999. Brakes are horrendous. No...

It's not difficult. Remember "quick release" hubs? If you do they were not over tightenable. You can always fall back on, "tighten as hard as you loosened." With the same wrench its quite accurate and if you want to test, do a comparison open ended vs. torque wrench.

There was a time when your lbs would replace a cassette (or the worn out rings) when worn out. Anyway, that is what I am going to do when the time comes.

Odd. To me the most natural thing is to go to a custom wheel maker for a second set. You have virtually unlimited choice. Whereas with the OEM?

Do this. What is the highest speed you are reaching when on your Vado 4.0 in turbo power level? If you are not exceeding 20 mph, then ask yourself whether the LBS may have sold you a model 3.0 by mistake (the Model 3.0 being 20 mph limited, above 20 you are doing all the work).

It's half the price.

Think he wants service on his R&M's. " I have patronized our local Trek store in Bellingham for parts, accessories and most importantly for repairs on my Riese & Muller bikes. "

"8. A nice class 3 bike for $3500 and weighing at 33lbs (it's worth repeating again) ." And I hope Specialized repeats with a Creo SL model at these spec's.

Vado 3.0 2108 build with 5,400 mi. and no issues. In first few hundred miles I thought I was hearing things from the motor and took it to lbs who found nothing and with time this sounds just the motor doing its thing. It is nice to hear there is a reasonably priced motor rebuild program...