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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @ George S. in the UK writing a cheque is an admission of debt and is 100% enforceable unless the cheque signature is forged or the chequebook has been stolen - does the UK differ from the USA in this respect? Whereas whether donators actually get bikes or not is one thing, I do not believe...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am confused - Sondors said he did ship bikes on time as promised. Ho hum. I think you totally misunderstood Wa5's reference to brake levers - in the UK the right hand lever is the front brake. As you say, who cares? Jumping in the CF pool does not permit the seller to mislead you, make...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    LOL so you are an apologist - look he claimed Storm ebikes (whoops) could be produced at a rate of 12-14000 per month with manufacturing all in place with delivery in May 2015. and because it is patently untrue you are trying to justify it, just ignore me and I will ignore you - good luck with...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @ Powerme, I funded Trackr in Jan 2015 and only have received 3 of the 8 I ordered (the more advanced ones are still to come). I have ordered Lily too, Jan 2016 delivery apparently - (Link Removed - No Longer Exists) However Sondors claimed he had a capacity of 12-14000 bikes a month at the...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Trev, I think as long as something is delivered with two wheels such will be the relief that Ivars will be labelled the Messiah - problem is I think it will be 2-3 months before some people get something in return for their donations - 7500 bikes made and shipped globally? Never in a million...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Kids have got the keyboards again. Estimated delivery May 2015. So now on July 6th a few bikes may be delivered to customers in the U.S.A. only which are far removed from the launch spec of Feb 2015. Let's wait until 7500 bikes have been delivered globally - September/October 2015? And...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Possibly - if it is dimensional weight so be it, I advised that the shipping docket stated package weight 89Ibs - it did not state anything else. You will recall when manufacturing was all in place in Feb 15 that the bike weighed 45Ibs.... Nothing will surprise me, certainly when the bikes hit...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I agree Trev, but all will be sorted when the first few ebikes land - what is and what isn't - will be interested how the EU customs handle the charges they are hot on everything I handle with my business which ships worldwide- warranty repairs from Hong Kong? I have to fill out forms and...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    LOL Negative energy Yan?!?! This isn’t the central issue for me in my life, do I give you sob stories of things I am enduring or have endured in my life? Or do I instead release an article about Aspergers to garner public sympathy? I am not the one selling an bike worldwide - if I want to buy...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    This is a fair point however we know for sure the bike weighs in at the very least, with battery, nearly 60 lbs, and with a 'never in a million years 90 minute battery charger" it will be more again - the screenshot clearly stated package weight. Yan, in brief I approached Sondors initially...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    One nice Chappie feels that if and when he receives his ebike it will totally destroy the concerns I have and others share - so he posted his UPS confirmation - 89lbs shipping weight #raisedeyebrows Just looked it up on GoSondors - The bike weighs approximately 49lbs without the battery. ok so...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    For balance I wonder if and when EU backers or those in Switzerland will receive their bikes, and in the case of EU backers, a bill for £600?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Apparently this email was just delivered to a potential owner. I just got this e-mail: "This message was sent to you at the request of SONDORS EBIKES to notify you that the electronic shipment information below has been transmitted to UPS. Scheduled Delivery: 06-July-2015"
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Hi I hadn't I am afraid, you will have noticed my relative absence from the forum because I just haven't got the time to look into things as deeply as I was -where id you get this info from please?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    George I always respect what you write but think your last post is unfair, this campaign has stunk from the start - as I feel there will be a sting in the tail, your assumption might be right or might be wrong, as always with these things there will be blame deflection, personally I don't...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @ Yan - thank you for posting on my FB Page initially and positively contributing to this page with some qualified insights, which I believe fully back up my concerns regarding the Sondors Campaign and videos.... My first name is Ian (pronounced ee-un) and I am often called Yan by people of...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    The plot thickens.... as many of you may know I set up a Facebook Page as well and these comments have just been made, totally uninvited... (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)Wow! Something is not right here. I design folding bikes. I go to my Chinese factory and watch assembly. The workers at...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I decided I wanted to experience some of the angst of funders of the Ivars campaign by ordering one of these. Just received an email and it sent shudders down my spine, hopefully Ivars is not involved in this one too!!!! http://www.lily.camera/?ct-referral-code=UJ3QQmeX Hi Everyone, We...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am slightly worried that my position that I promoted myself to - that of "King Anti-Sondors claims and campaign" - is under threat from others in this thread!
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I can stomach spin for sure, but blatantly exaggerated specs even to an amateur like me doing a moderate amount of research really riles me. There is a new VW advert in the UK, guy is buying a parachute and choosing between cheap and expensive models, the killer line being that you get what you...
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