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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Hurley kudos to you it is not necessary but cheers, something inside me speculates that Ivars will get 2-300 bikes out in an attempt to kickstart sales, poor old international donators
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Whereas there are fun and enjoyable elements to forum activity I find the whole thing fascinating more than anything - I like looking at the mechanics (not in the bike) of what Sondors is trying to do, it's like watching a really gripping 12 episode saga and we are currently on episode 6 - as...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Personally I feel that is unfair to state so - there seem to be 10 owners so far or did I miss the 6990 waiting for their bikes? Nobody is abused or criticised for donating to Sondors, it was the Owners Group that was set up behind closed doors, ejecting people who asked questions, all wooden...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Hits the pedal.... Cannot seem to edit having real problems with iOS and this forum, JavaScript errors etc. used to be brilliant
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Robbing Peter to pay Paul? Possibly but something is amiss, I think it was crucial that Sondors got a few bikes out before the Court Hearing - if anything I am more sceptical, no international orders have been shipped and frustrated donators have been told more info is...... Coming soon! I...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Tara, I apologise but I cannot initiate a new conversation with Hurley by private message - seems to be a misunderstanding, I am not and have never posted as Theodore on IGG, I do not post on IGG - I refer to the post below and think someone has got their wires crossed somewhere, have a good...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Some excerpts from FB pages Ky TiongIt would be great if you guys can provide "link" to the profile of the customers who received the product...then we will feel more "convinced"...tq 16 hours ago · Edited (Link Removed - No Longer Exists) Pat Squals EgidioLets us know how it performs 18 hours...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @scmike admittedly we all make mistakes but for the guy to be abusing me and sending pictures of turds with his bike and saying that they were left there for me, well he can have some back...... and a little bit more too - all light-hearted banter. Why would you accept a review from Josh, he...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I agree Subject to the terms and reservations as expressed above but not in finality and herein can be referred to thereafter in abbreviated terms, notwithstanding context so help me Lord
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    but for now I will leave you with lyrics from THE BOXER a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Glad it raised a smile - Josh was Pm'ing me through my FB page abusing me and then sent me a photo of his bike after he had corrected his mistake with a turd on the lawn, saying it was for me. Let's face it, if I received an ebike I wouldn't give a stuff about whether anyone else got one or...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    There never was a finished article in Feb 2015, everything has changed, some things for the better, but the claims would have quickly been exposed as hollow. There was good reason Sondors didn't want any professional reviewer to review that bike pre-launch. Now where were that series of demo...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @ Hurley - good post, someone needs to put Ryans' dummy back in. August maybe September delivery for him and others, if at all. First to get those bikes should have been the bike press.
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    IMHO this trickle of bikes is nothing but a credibility exercise, I agree with scmike last estimate I saw was creeping towards the 7000 mark
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Exactly how many of the 850 members are owners? This thread raises valid concerns about the Sondors ebike - a few bikes delivered out of 7500 globally does not make for a successful Campaign. Sondors advanced the Campaign on the basis the bike would have a weight of 45lbs, a range of 50...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Clarification from my Weight Watcher! Ohhh, no the bike and seat together are 56LBS. I was just saying the seat is a heavy seat. Total of 61.5 with battery.
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Because a few people have got their bikes - I am pleased for them btw - does not nullify the serious concerns about the misleading claims and the way this Campaign has been managed - Sondors needed to get bikes out there, I think it will be months and months before a full rollout happens, if at...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am getting it in the ear on my FB Page because two people have received bikes, curiously that same picture was posted as well. One more moderate poster has weighed the bike without seat at 56lbs and assesses a further 3lbs for the seat post and 5.5lbs for the battery, total bike weight...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I suggest you look up sometime and then you might see the light - so when you have gone 50 miles on a 1.5 hour charge and reached the heady speed of 20 mph on a bike that weighs 45lbs, let me know huh? Do I believe that 7500 bikes have been manufactured, shipped and will be received by...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am quite certain the factory will have tested these wheels in fairness - but remind me, which manufacturer recently had to recall 1,000,000 bikes because of an issue with the front wheel which resulted in two deaths? Anyway, the book looks good for a cheapy ebike, I cannot wait for an...
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