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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    An ebike campaign isn't worthy of my hatred, just my interest. If I want to bring peoples attention to matters that are glossed over or otherwise unclear I'll continue to do so, I have no intention whatsoever to hurt Sondors Sales (as a point, Olenik referred to Chargebacks hurting the...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @pxpaulx Such a move at a crucial juncture of the Campaign with bikes yet to be shipped is borne out of desperation imo - I refer to point 20, detailed above. The fact is with regards to money, it appears that the game is over, everyone has packed up and gone home and this leaves Agency 2.0 in...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I would have left it alone but wanted to state for fact the claims of Olenik and I can't because I am limited to a few comments a day - I only had the other half of the paragraph above to post. Even I am getting bored, it has all gone tits up as I said it would in one way or another, writing...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @biknut - I am limited to a few comments a day on IGG and am unable to respond there. The statement and response are worth posting here. You wrote: Philip Hillis 26 minutes ago Ian, Storm said he has every intention of paying 2.0 everything that’s owed them, after the bikes are manufactured...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I'll take it on the chin, but you obviously don't frequent ES much, they make me look small fry! I must double my efforts!!! I just read Oleniks' submission to the California Court here - http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2015/04 ... raud-case/ This in my view, is worth singling out - if I was...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Personally Paul this story is going to run and run, tip-of-the-iceberg stuff - and the Lawsuit will put in the Public Domain all the info that has been withheld to date......
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I have never been called........ a serial critic before! Pass me the tissues and give me a hug. Since the moment I got banned from the Storm ebike Facebook page for asking questions these developments have intrigued me - have you ever read all the Chapters of a book but the last one @George S...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @Credible Hulk, if anything this mess with Agency 2.0 can buy Sondors the one thing he needs - time. For that reason I have a sneaking suspicion it has all been pre-planned and he Sondors may be able to present himself as an angel sent to earth when he is able to deliver bikes in a few months...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Oh Paul. I am a Burtynsky fan too...... but I don't buy it one little bit about censorship, there are multiple high res images coming from Sondors......
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I still have no reason to doubt that is the same bike with different switchgear that we have seen in all ad campaigns to date.
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @Bruce Choate will be very disappointed at the inclusion of pedal assist to which he had referred to as a gimmick, but it is there - so was the range test with pedal assist? You can bet the buck I paid to fund the Campaign it was!! Question answered!
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Meanwhile..... New Campaign Update! Hello Ian, The ‘Sondors Electric Bike’ team just posted: 1 new Announcement: Hi Sondors eBike Backers! Happy Friday! We wanted to provide you with some more info to help keep you in the loop as well as provide two more goodies because we believe we...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    As you may well be aware Chas there are Sondors fanboys on this forum and elsewhere still now who maintain that all is above board with this campaign and the claimed specs, they are doing their best to reassure funders and to argue the toss about laughable specs claimed as self-professed experts...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    These things should not happen in business - Sondors and Olenik are negligent in how they have handled matters and there are a lot of worried funders out there now, I would like to think I saw this was going to happen right from the start, nothing has been convincing in spite of anything that...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Cheers for update young Trevor, sting in the tail eh? Still no evidence of 1 or 2 bikes produced....
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @Court Can I make a formal complaint on this thread please? Charge the battery in 90 minutes and watch literal explosions sure to launch a rider upwards 50 miles into the air and 50 miles away from the bike into the Twilight Zone. Buyers might get a bike, but they are going to get bilked...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @pxpaulx to remain objective there is no evidence to suggest when he was given the hat prior to the range test! It could have been afterwards. Now the claim is that Sondors claimed the bike would have a 20 mile range......... have I missed something? (Yes probably)
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    yes i spotted that too but forgot to mention it, didn't want to be accused of nit-picking! I am confused too, does it have pedal assist?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    The range was advertised as 50 miles - then *with pedal assist was added. I guess Storm is using a battery in peak condition, level ground, light wind, lightweight rider and with hardly any slowing down, or stopping i.e. constant velocity - he would mad should if he have tried to accurately...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    This is more encouraging, personally I would like to have seen the hundreds of frames, batteries and motors to which Sondors has referred. 1 hour ago Hi Sondors eBike Backers! It’s Greg here with a manufacturing update, battery testing update and another goodie from Storm! First, THANK YOU...
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