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  1. EmilyRides

    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Oh, and the Chinese rabbit hole is definitely a place I don't want to go! o_O🤣
  2. EmilyRides

    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    @Deacon Blues I don't currently have a road bike that would be worth converting. I do have a Trek Pilot WSD, but it's a 2007, with an old triple crank, rim brakes, etc. from that era. It's in pretty rough shape and is permanently set up on my smart trainer. So, I'd have to buy a new analog road...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @jabberwocky , that is way too techie for me. I did check the other manufacturers you mentioned to remind myself. Canyon makes a couple of models in a 2XS, which is what I would need, but they are sold out, of course. Pretty much all their XS models are, which to me says they aren't...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @jabberwocky, I definitely don't want class 1, as that is what I have now (Kona Dew-e DL), and I have problems at times keeping up with my husband. I think I saw a Canyon that would fit but was all sold out. I will double check them. And when I checked Cannondales, I believe the standover...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    @Saratoga Dave, Your memory is good! ;) Yes, I am totally a roadie from wayyyy back, at least 30 years on the saddle. We do have a gravel driveway and live on a gravel road, but I am perfectly fine with walking my bike on both of those, as my husband already has to do that, and there are no...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Interesting thought, thanks @Stefan Mikes and @Saratoga Dave. I am not sure I want to make that particular bike work quite bad enough to go to the extra expense of a different wheelset and who knows what else to make it work with the motor, shifters, etc. and possibly end up causing as many...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    I heard back from my friend, and her 49cm Creo Expert with 38c tires has a standover of ~ 720mm. I measured my Trek Pilot as it is sitting on my trainer, and it is also 720 mm. It is higher because of being on the trainer. I can stand over it easily when it's on the ground, but on the trainer...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @Prairie Dog, love the photo of your petite wife! Not sure I can really take much from it, since the Creo 1 and 2 likely have slightly different geometry, and cycling inseams can vary quite a bit even between people of the same height. For example, my friend who has a Creo 2 49cm (XS) is...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @Allan47.7339! I will have a look. I actually saw the crank length on the Specialized site - 165s = good. @Saratoga Dave, I realized that I could ask my friend who has a Small Creo Expert with 38c wheels to measure the standover. I never thought about it varying with tire size, but that...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Good point @Saratoga Dave, and may well be the case. I would want no tires larger than 38s, as this will be a road machine for me, not really for gravel. My friend who has a carbon Creo had the LBS put 38s on hers before taking delivery. So, if I were to get the carbon Creo but change the...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks for all the excellent comments, folks! I will take all your points into consideration, definitely. A few replies: * My husband has electronic shifting on his analog Trek Emonda (Shimano) and loves it. I have arthritis in my thumbs already, and it's likely only a matter of time for my...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @jabberwocky. I saw one other bike that is about $800 to upgrade to electronic shifting, so I figured it was about that or more. The reason I ask is because my one friend who has had two bikes with Apex mechanical absolutely hated it, said it was always in the shop being adjusted, brakes...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    That's what I was afraid of...thanks.
  14. EmilyRides

    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Still thinking on all this... Do you think if I ordered this model that comes stock with SRAM Apex mechanical shifting, they would do an upgrade to electronic shifting before I took delivery? I know it would cost me (no idea how much), but depending on the cost, might be worth it. I just don't...
  15. EmilyRides

    Shimano E6100 average speed calculation

    Thanks @Tars Tarkas. Unfortunately, Shimano does not allow the end user to adjust the tire circumference; it's built in. And the fact that it's measuring distance correctly (based on a comparison with my husband's cyclometer, which we've checked on a couple of measured routes) shows that that is...
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    Shimano E6100 average speed calculation

    On my Kona Dew-e DL with Shimano E6100 I've noticed that the average speed displayed after a ride doesn't match with what a standard speed/distance/time calculator would give. For example, after a ride of 18.5 miles and 1 hour, 11 mins, my display showed an average speed of 15.9 mph. However, if...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks @jabberwocky, that is really good intel. I didn't know the first thing about Apex or anything SRAM-related, so what my friend told me was the first and only thing I'd heard about it. She is very bike-knowledgeable, so I respect her opinion, but I do know that everyone is different. I like...
  18. EmilyRides

    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Thanks for your reply! Rival is a step up from the entry-level Apex, so I'm not sure I can apply your experience exactly. Too bad Specialized spec'd out the entry-level componentry for this bike (the Creo 2 Comp E5).
  19. EmilyRides

    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    On the Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5, I see that the shifters (and brakes) are SRAM Apex mechanical. I have never used any SRAM shifters. One of my cycling buddies says that the Apex are the lowest-end shifters SRAM makes, are mushy, troublesome, and non-intuitive to use (the double tap). Has anyone used...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    A couple of cycling friends mentioned this new aluminum Creo model recently, and I am seriously tempted. I'm currently riding a Kona Dew-e DL I bought in fall 2022, and I love it, except that I really want a Class 3 ebike. My husband is a pretty serious roadie, and although we ride together...
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