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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    @TrevorB thanks for all that info, I really appreciate it. In this 3 page discussion, I've had a ton of excellent help, and I'm now almost sure I'll need a cargo bike (and pay accordingly!). Frankly, I was hoping just to get an electric version of my last bike, a commuter hybrid, which...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    @indianajo oh, that's very good to know! Many thanks
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Hear hear! As Tennyson said: To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Ah, by quoting the immortal John Ruskin, you reveal yourself to be a gentleman and a scholar! Wise words indeed (and it's this train of thought that has brought me from my initial "I should be able to get what I need for around £1000" up to, well, up to considering a Riese and Muller...maybe)...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    This is definitely true (London is a massive hotspot for bike theft), and the visibility of a locked trailer is something I'm concerned about. Part of my calculations for total weight include three D-locks and a really hefty chain, for locking on site. I am still worried about losing any...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Well...I'm kinda married to the trailer, because I'm married to the woman who gave it to me for a birthday present! If I were to get a bike that didn't work with the trailer, I'd run a genuine risk of hurting her feelings (as she did a lot of work to choose the right one, and then manage to...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    they're definitely in the "to be considered" column, though from their website photos, I can't see if the rear axle is suitable to attach my trailer. Happily, there is a dealer here in London that I can check out (not sure how many models they have for test-drives yet).
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Yeah, this 250W European regulation kinda sucks. You looked good on your bike in that misplaced reply, btw. I can't wait until I have a reason to smile like that too!
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    A great bike at a good price point, shame about not being able to get one in the UK! Thanks for the pointer though, more knowledge is always better :-)
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Hey, thanks for the info! I just had a look at the bike, and those pannier/foot supports on either side of the back wheel would prevent me from using my trailer, unfortunately. All the info you've given on weights, tires, and what you've managed to load (400lbs, wow!) is really useful, I'll...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    I was actually thinking about this (great minds, and all that :-)
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    All good info, really helpful, thanks! My trailer slightly modifies the bikes it attaches to (rear axle replacement), but not in any non-reversible way, happily. I think this bike would be just on the edge of what I need, so I may give it a miss (but that amount of torque is really nice).
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Thanks for that recommendation, I really appreciate it. That bike has 80Nm of torque, nice! I can't find the load figure you mention, but it sounds reasonable. As for the Babboes, they are really nice, but the wrong shape for me, as I wouldn't be able to get one through my house for...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Apologies, Alaskan, for missing your post and not replying earlier. Cube at least is a brand I've come across! They seem to have a good rep. Hugely helpful is your comment on Shimano Alphine geared hubs not being up for the weight I want to transport. The used bike I mentioned many replies...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    Wow, thanks so much for the well-researched advice! Yeah, I was worried that the Wisper Wayfarer 7 would be not up to the towing task, nor any "normal" ebike designed just for riding. I'm realising that I will have to get a cargo bike for what I need (I was avoiding coming to that conclusion...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    You have flawless written english, for someone whose native language is something else (but I'm not surprised, most of my Polish friends here in London are the same). Streatham sounds like "Strat-ham" or "Stret-ham" (sort of inbetween the two). Emphasis on the first syllable, but only slightly...
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    I was hoping that I wouldn't have to convert a bike myself (I'm handy, but I'd rather be working than working on a bike, if you know what I mean :-) You've given excellent and thorough advice though, if it comes to it, I know it'll help me to do any conversion. And 8000 miles, oh wow!
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    need ebike for urban hauling of lots of kit, often with a trailer (London, occasional hill)

    You'll get more recognition from Londoners by saying "Suh-thuk" :) And it's still not all that far from London Bridge, so it's in the right ballpark (cricketpark?). Next time you're in London gimmie a shout, the beer is on me (you'll be standing in for all the people here who've helped me in my...
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