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I forgot to mention one thing about SRAM -- their hydraulic road/gravel brakes are pretty bad. I think this opinion is fairly widely shared. Their MTB brakes are probably better. It's fine for most situations, but it's terrible for serious hills. I gravel bike in the mountains, and I eventually...

I already have 3 -- and that's after selling my old MTB. My wife is not enthralled at this point

LOL - you're right! Another example of sales people giving out mis-information. Happens all the time. It was probably a 4.0 SL. It looked exactly like this one: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-sl-40-step-through/p/216534?color=367280-216534 They took the tag off to prep it for me...

Yeah - I guess that's what I would need. Was hoping not to have an elephant of a bike.

I went back to Specialized Santa Monica today. I didn't realize they had taken over the building next door for e-bikes. I was able to ride a Vado 3.0 SL. Large is definitely the right size for me. Maybe I had unrealistic expectations, but I have to say that I was disappointed with the power...

Thanks. Where are you getting that info? I am right on the edge of medium and large (I'm 5'10"). I went into the Specialized Santa Monica shop a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see any Turbo Vado SL's there, and I couldn't get anyone to help me (or even look at me). I walked out after 20...

I've never used Apex. I have SRAM Rival mechanical on my gravel bike. I don't love the double-tap system, but you get used to it very quickly. The shifts aren't nearly as smooth and crisp as the Campagnolo Chorus-12 on my road bike. The SRAM feels a lot "clunkier." Although not very elegant, it...

Thanks to everyone for the helpful feedback. Does anyone know anywhere in Southern California where I can demo a Turbo Vado SL? It seems to be out of stock everywhere. Alternatively, does anyone in the LA area want to let me try theirs? : ) I can let you hold onto my Ibis Hakka carbon gravel...

Hi all. I'm considering a Turbo Vado 5.0 SL EQ as my first foray into e-bikes. I already have analog gravel and road bikes. This would be primarily for urban commuting and errands. Two questions: 1. I'm assuming that a Vado 2 will be coming out this year -- should I wait? I'm trying to figure...