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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    The "mag wheels" are actually carbon fiber wheels and are optional on some of the Denzel models. Just installed a set on a Samurai for a customer. Really nice wheels, but pricey.
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    The bikes I import are "not for use on public roads" so not required to comply with FMVSS. And has been suggested, the bikes I will build here can be built the same way leaving it up to the end user to attempt to register if they want. Thank you for that input BTW. It is a consideration now...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    sorry...I had a brain fart. 750W is equivalent to 1HP but not to 49cc...not sure where I got the 49cc which should be closer to 3HP
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    People being reasonable and listening to one another with open minds?...that's refreshing!
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Right now I am US distributor for Denzel. My company is Hightail Electric Bikes. My website is hightailebikes.com I am a manufacturer for electronic assembly equipment with my other company Versatec. This business is winding down, it is why I started Hightail. I am designing an electric bike...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    I think the moral of the story is create whatever you want, call it whatever you want and sell it to whoever will buy it. Then it's "catch me if you can". At the end of the day, the onus falls on the end user. They are the ones who may or may not have the problem with law enforcement. And as...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Because of the reasons I mentioned. No one wants to go to a 2 or 3 day motorcycle safety course to learn to ride a 250 lb motorcycle so they then can ride there 1000W pedal assist ebike legally (once they register it, course). It's not to avoid the course. You don't go to Skip Barber racing...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    I never said the bikes I sell were LSEB's...and I don't sell them as such. They are sold as "not intended for use on public roads". I don't advocate these be allowed on federal land trails for bike use (OK for motor vehicle use trails, though). As an importer and manufacturer, I need clearly...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Yes, this is a possible path. The bikes I sell now are "not intended for use on public streets" and are not sold as such. But not all new models envisioned are ORV looking and may appear intended primarily for street use (so what, I guess). There is always the concern that this "open door"...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Close...but I think you need to expand the speed (and/or HP) a bit. There is already LSEB up to 28 mph. The 49cc is about 3HP (49cc = 3 hp = 2250W). I think there should be a light motorbike class from that covers up to 40-50 mph range (751W - 8KW or 1HP - 3.5 HP, for example). The reason is...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    49cc is equivalent to 1 HP (Virtually equivalent to 1BHP, brake horse power)...as is 750W. In fact this is where the 750W number came from originally. Scooters can be ridden legally on public streets but have even more stringent speed restrictions in many states. That is why there is a huge...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Getting a motorcycle license is a big detractor. In CT for example, a two day course is required to get an motorcycle endorsement to ride anything over 50cc. The courses fill up fast especially weekend courses. You shouldn't need a motorcycle endorsement to ride a 1000W ebike. That's just...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    I never said this was a trail issue...just the opposite...I'm saying it is WAY more than just a trail issue. I never said all ebikes should fall under the same category...I proposed 4 categories for ALL motorized bikes (ANY motor type). I think I may be the only one here that sees there are...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    Class 4 is a lame attempt to throw everything on two wheels with a motor over the 750W limit into one category as if to say "I only care about riding on trails so anything over 750W doesn't matter". It is one of the first points I was trying to make...you need to step back form the thing that...
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    Statement Regarding Potential CPSC Ebike Law Preemption of 3-class Legislation

    I have spent a good portion of my day today reading a fair amount of this interesting thread. I came across this forum based upon an internet search of the same subject. First allow me to introduce myself, I am a relative new comer to the ebike world, having started my new company within the...
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