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    Methodology proposal to establish the assistance levels in an E Bike

    Antonio, I'm wondering if there is a min power that the motor can produce... if it can only engage at 40W, it may explain some of what you're seeing here... if your % of input power is low enough, it may cut in and out... I've not looked at my data to see what I've gathered, but will dig into...
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    Methodology proposal to establish the assistance levels in an E Bike

    I sort of "get" why TQ isn't too bothered to make sure that their numbers aren't full on accurate to what a calibrated power meter would generate. For their needs, they just need (for lack of a better term) and "area play"... so long as they know they're close (ish), and if the rider is...
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    Methodology proposal to establish the assistance levels in an E Bike

    Some of my posts in the Domane+ thread illustrate some of the data issues I've seen w/ the power numbers coming out of the system. I've started to do a deeper dive into crunching the differences between what the TQ reports as "human power" vs what my power reading pedals report - I think most...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    Awesome! Looking forward to what you find in the data!
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    @Calcoaster : Oh - don't get me wrong - it is a natural feel... I do like it... A LOT 😁 I'm just diving (perhaps) a bit too far down into the weeds on the data... I'll post what I find when I get a few min to dork out a bit more. 🤓 And to your point, I've not really looked at the combined...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    Well - the plot thickens... 😉 On my ride today, I tried to compare the Garmin wattage to the wattage displaying on the TQ head unit, and I think I see a bit of a pattern. As I started to add power slowly and then sustain that power, it looked like the numbers were the same, it was only...
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    TQ motor

    So far, I've found the GPX file from the TREK App has the most data. I did try sleuthing around the Garmin FIT file - but it has very minimal info in the file itself, much more in the GPX file. No clue if the wahoo picks up and saves more than the Garmin does. Wonder if I know someone I can...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    @Calcoaster - you're welcome! The adjusted rider input was my own "maths" to convert the number from the TREK file to match what my Garmin said. Not knowing how to easily align data from my garmin activity file and the TREK gpx file, I went "lazy but hopefully close enough" by just taking the...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    @AntonioAlfaro - Not sure why you wouldn't see all the data unless your converter is only grabbing the main data in the nodes. There is also "extension" data for each "node" in the file - those extensions have all the other parameters. The gpx file is nothing but XML w/ nodes that look like...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    @rdv - dug a bit deeper into the data today (the post above was actually ready Sun evening, but seems I didn't click "Post Reply" till a few minutes ago... d'oh! Since the TREK "human" power numbers were a bit *cough* overstated *cough cough* - I adjusted them down so that the avg from TREK...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    So, I played around a bit with the max assist mode at the end of a very hot ride yesterday. I tweaked the max assist to provide 200% boost to a max power of 300W. I was about 2.5 hours into a 3 hour total ride, so the bike was pretty toasty. With ambient air temps around 103F and my Garmin...
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    Trek Domane+ SLR 6

    Some good info in this thread, Dave: Domane+ SLR Thread (hoping I did that correctly - LOL) Short version - I've an SLR7 Ultegra build, tried one of the SLR7 SRAM (40mm tires w/ 1x setup) while in Europe - and MUCH prefer the 2x road specific setup - okay, and that the US spec lets you hit 28...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    I'm not as familiar w/ the Solace, but do love the endurance geometry of the TREK and have been loving the iso-speed plush ride on Domanes since they were initially launched. I've had 2 "regular" and now one electric Domane. Put almost 30,000 miles on my first before I got the 2021 SLR, and...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    Sounds like a great first ride!!!
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    DB - you have my curiosity piqued - which model does TREK offer that isn't avail in Canada? On the front derailleur issue, the front Ultegra Di2 12 speed derailleur *is* adjustable. It is part of the setup process to step through adjusting the front mech outer and inner limits with the chain...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    Some yes, some no... having been (and still being) a habitual Garmin user, I'm not in the habit of recording from my phone. Also, other than an "Ave Motor Power" and "Ave Rider Power" summary numbers, you can't really look at charts of either power over time. The data is in the GPX file - but...
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    2023 Trek Domane+

    Not sure I've seen this sort of info on any other motor system - but I'll freely admit that I've not dug into the deets looking for this either; so understand that I'm not at all saying this isn't a good thing to look into about a motor system at all... I've just not see this sort of info on any...
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    TQ motor

    Not sure how to tap into the raw feed coming out of the TQ head unit, but I did record a ride using the TREK app and sent the GPX file to myself and crawled around it a bit. Each data node looks like this: (curious to see if this site supports posting of code blocks 🤔) <trkpt...
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    TQ motor

    For clarity - my post is only about the TREK Domane+ SLR... YMMV for other manufacturers that utilize the TQ motor. 😇
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    TQ motor

    Since I use a Garmin on my bike, I've yet to try (or, candidly, even think about) using the "TREK Central" app to track a ride. Since I've been riding home roads with my Domane+ SLR7, I've not used the route range and other features of the app. I have heard that some like the TQ app better than...
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