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    UL Certified Ebikes

    If a company other than UL Solutions has legitimately product safety certified, the manufacturer can say “Certified by ___ to UL 2849” where the blank is the certification company’s name. If a company only tested to UL 2849 it would not demonstrate compliance to the safety standard. I caution...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    More than half the requirements of most UL safety standards are about construction, design, engineering, and material principles, not just about testing. UL 2849 is not a testing standard, it’s a system safety standard and requires engineering evaluation to determine product compliance. An ISO...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Pedego does not show up as UL Certified at the links shared. If there are advertisements of UL Certified coming from any company who doesn’t show up on UL’s certification directory please report that at this link: https://market-surveillance.ul.com/
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Shimano does not come up on UL’s certification listing database. Here are the existing Listee companies that have ULS Listed e-Bikes: https://productiq.ulprospector.com/en/search?term=qgns Here are the existing Listee companies that have ULS Listed e-Scooters & e-Mobility Devices...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Hi Tom, My apologies for the late reply. UL 2849 covers the electrical system of an e-bike and the integration of the various components to make the system. It evalautes and tests to the forseeable use and misuse of an ebike. Over 20 companies are voting members on its requirements coming...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Great list that you have started to build utilizing available sources! It would be ideal if the brand who says they are certified provide a web link back to the certification organization who has actually issued it for the electrical system that is being used on their e-bike. For example here...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    UL Solutions Market Surveillance department investigate any concerns reported from consumers, regulators, and any other concerned party related to products identified as UL Certified. Market Surveillance actively monitors CPSC for recalls that involve UL Marked products. They open...
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    Comparison in definitions: Tested To, Complied To, Certified To, UL Certified

    While the NYC law does not explicitly mention OSHA National Recognized Test Laboratories (NRTLs) with scope of recognition to UL 2849, UL 2272, and UL 2271, it does make a lot of sense these would be the approved certification organizations given the fact the US government has recognized some of...
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    Yes I am based out of the Northbrook HQ.

    Yes I am based out of the Northbrook HQ.
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Fire protection is multi-prong approach. FDNY has given great education that only use the lithium ion batteries designed for the end product. Full electronic, environmental, and mechanical protection for battery packs is defined in UL 2271. At this time most used batteries have not been...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Battery packs submitted for formal certification evaluation at the same time the ebike electrical system is submitted can be evaluated to UL 2271 and UL 2849 concurrently.
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    Amid fire concern, NYC banning sale of electric bikes without UL-listed batteries

    Sorry just seeing your post Ron. Please see my post here with the link to the database: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/ul-certified-ebikes.44690/page-2#post-592355
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Electric motor have been suspected as the starting incident that leads to lithium battery fire in some cases. In lab environments, non-compliances have occurred specific to motor requirements and tests when certifying to UL 2849. Other parts of the system have an affect whether or not the...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Safety never sleeps! I appreciate your questions and helping clarify things. A used intact UL-certified battery pack retains its certification so long as it not damaged, defective, or tampered with. It should be used in the intended end product it was designed for. Using an intact UL-certified...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    For the battery packs certified to UL 2271, the UL Recognition Mark will be the most common mark and will have a file number printed underneath the logo beginning with “MH” and then 5 numbers. In my first post I shared links to the UL Database that can be used to confirm authenticity. However...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    That is not true that only the battery pack is the significant fire concern. The electrical system of an e-bike inclusive of e-motor, safety circuits, battery charger as well as the battery packs pose fire, explosion, and/or electric shock risk. If there was not concern over the full electrical...
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Hello, Thank you for your questions. I will try to answer them succinctly. 1. The ebike with an AW motor, is it UL 2849 Certified? If not, it would not meet the recently passed NYC micromobility law. Clause 20 of UL 2849 describes the Motor and Motor Control safety requirements. There are...
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    Comparison in definitions: Tested To, Complied To, Certified To, UL Certified

    For reference for the Electric Bike Review community, The link below from LinkedIn goes to the 2023 State of the Nation - US Product Recall Index. In it, there's an article regarding lithium battery operated products and is enough being done to keep consumers and the public safe. Please...
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    Product Safety industry veteran. Employer: www.ul.com LinkedIn...

    Product Safety industry veteran. Employer: www.ul.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ibrahim-jilani/
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    UL Certified Ebikes

    Hi Electric Bike Review community, My name is Ibrahim Jilani, and I'm the Consumer Technology Director at UL Solutions. I've been at ULS for 18 years and the son of a electric lighting manufacturer who has been ULS certified for over 40 years. I would like to help the community of e-Bike...
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