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    Keeping it Legal for the Common Good, Staying Within the Legal Classes

    Going down just a 5% grade any rider can easily hit 40mph. Going down a 10% grade you don't even have to pedal to hit 50mph. There is so much that is ignore in the ebike debate. Below 20mph the NHTSA doesn't even car about max power which explains why the federal ebike definition only...
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    concerns with ebikes laws and ways to improve them

    This is a post on ebike regulations so I have been out of context.
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    concerns with ebikes laws and ways to improve them

    Listen, I have nothing to do with all the new ebikes coming out with Class switching capability. I did predict it would happen but that does not make it my fault. Maybe you can explain what the performance difference is between a LSEB as defined by HR727 and a multi-mode ebike. My guess...
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    concerns with ebikes laws and ways to improve them

    So you think that the 3-class state legislation is working? There are any new "multi-mode" (basically switchable to any class and even off-road whenever the rider chooses) which make it impossible to enforce any trail rule that only class 1 allowed (not that anyone is even trying to enforce the...
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    VPO

    Multi-mode is a software capability to switch from Class 1 to Class 2 to Class 3 anytime you want. The idea is that when a rider is on a road side bike lane that allows Class 3 they switch the ebike to that mode. The problem lies in enforcement because most riders are just going to leave the...
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    California Assembly member proposes driver's license for e-bikes

    Have you noticed that many of the new models have multi-mode programming. 3-class is NOT working. The CPSC still owns what defines a compliant Low Speed Electric Bicycle that is legal for sale in all 50 states. We can discuss the regulations but I do care about the future of ebikes which...
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    California DMV getting tough on e-motos?

    It's not really a limit. If you read and understand the federal definition in HR727 you would understand it actually a motor rating which is actually very nebulous. Most engineers understand this but few others do (especially the lawyers that tell others that it's a power limit). The federal...
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    VPO

    Multi-mode capability was inevitably going to be necessity once one company realized that they are compliant to the federal definition in HR727 while everyone believes that an ebike has to be compliant to the 3-class regulations at the state level to be ridden legally. The fact is that an...
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    California Assembly member proposes driver's license for e-bikes

    Funny I got assurance from the People for Bikes legal counsel that they never wanted to push ebikes in this direction but I told him that the class system would provide the path for the states to require licenses, registration, and insurance on at least Class 3 models just as happened in Europe. '
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    California Assembly member proposes driver's license for e-bikes

    Bikes have a long history of being a "vehicle" that has use control traffic laws but does not require license, registration, or insurance requirements. I think if those "costs" get imposed on ebikes then they have a far lower appeal to get people out of cars because they simply will not replace...
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    In depth article by Bicycling Mag on the lawsuit against Rad regarding a girls death

    I have to agree that lawyers are groomed to think differently. I remember being at a party years ago and I asked a lawyer an opinion on something. They said they could not give their opinion because it could impact their future employment potential as they could only have an opinion that agreed...
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    In depth article by Bicycling Mag on the lawsuit against Rad regarding a girls death

    Given how steep the hill they were riding down was being on an analog bike would not make a difference - a bike going down that hill would likely hit 40mph without even pedaling. My guess on what happened is that the kid driving got scared of the speed they were going and pulled the front brake...
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    Encinitas City Council declares emergency for e-bikes, bicycles

    I do think we need to always remember that any bike or ebike (regardless of power or assist speed) can be ridden irresponsibly. This goes as well for automobiles as well but they don't share MUPs with pedestrians. I do worry that some will want to see ebikes neutered to the point that they are...
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    2022 - Top 12 Bafang Ultra M620 Ebikes

    Have to be careful when comparing torque limit ratings as they sometimes state that the final drive ratio must be considered. In other words they are limiting the torque of the rider + motor via the final drive ratio. This is kind of tricky because they may need to do this because they have so...
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    What if you had to register and insure any ebike that assisted faster than 20mph (this is already the case in Europe for any ebike faster than 15mph)?
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    Those I debate on this forum seem to want to make your assist speed choice for you by taking away the choice to buy or ride anything but a class 1 ebike (it's not just speed they ??? it's also having a throttle on an ebike) and just riding it slower when encountering pedestrians on mixed use...
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    I think this echos the feelings of a lot of riders in bike lanes when sharing the road with cars....a bit higher assist speed can be much safer.
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    I think many potential riders interested in substituting for a car occasionally to frequently would see the commuting value of an assist speed above 20mph (I wonder why millions of speed dongle hacks were sold in Europe to defeat the 25kph assist cut offs on EU spec ebikes). I'm not suggesting...
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    So you are equating a bike being ridden down a hill to being dropped from a helicopter. Wow, that is logical.
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    Canada to restrict class 3 ebikes to 20mph

    I do believe that we can't expect to ride 80mph+ eMotorcycles on sidewalks but it seems rational to allow the assist speed to mimic what the top typical speed a bike is ridden and still be considered a bike. I believe there is adequate data that suggests that is upwards of 50kph/30mph. Bikes /...
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